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Pierre
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:26 pm 
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Anyone has a good idea to practice my barré's? (you know, pushing down six strings with one finger so they all sound well)
should a powerball be helpfull? or what practicing aids do you use?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:42 pm 
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Hi Pierre Ive always recomend to my students to stay away from using such things as a powerball,theres only one way to get good at Barre chords and thats what ,practice onlt unless you want to look like Arnold S.and believe me thats a lot of work.louis
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:51 pm 
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Pierre: Make sure your action is set up as good as it can be for your insturment. Get the string action as low to the fretboard as you can with no fret buzzes. Respond if you want me to expound on this.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:49 pm 
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I think I understand it Kingfreeze,
so you just recommend to keep on practicing, slowly putting up the level unitl its totally goaway of buzzes?
hmmm, that will indeed be a lot of work. It's just because I could do it once, but lost it after a while not playing... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:48 pm 
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Hi Pierre I just wanted to check with you if you are talking about playing Barre chords on an acoustic or electric, because on electric you should already have the action of the strings lower on an acoustic you may need to have the action lowered by a Tech and that some acoustics are better suited for playing Barre Cords than others after all not all guitars are created equal.louis
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:41 pm 
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I think I understand it Kingfreeze,
so you just recommend to keep on practicing, slowly putting up the level unitl its totally goaway of buzzes?
hmmm, that will indeed be a lot of work. It's just because I could do it once, but lost it after a while not playing...



On an electric, you would have an adjustable bridge, so it would be easy to adjust. An acoustic is tricky, the first thing to do is loosen the strings and pull out the saddle from the tailpiece with needle nose pliers, look in the slot, are there any shims?, if so pull em out, put the saddle back, tune back to pitch and see if it buzzes, or if its much better. If not , a tech would take the saddle and sand the bottom of it perfectly evenly, until the action is as low as THAT insturment can be. Remember I posted before how the action of acoustics is dependant on how the builder glued the neck in. If the acoustic has electronics, piezo electric crystals lying under the saddle, most likely they are unattached to the saddle. So the bottom of the saddle must be completely flat otherwise when put back together the strings will have an uneven volume. When I worked as a tech for Ovation, which was years ago, this was standard proceedure.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:28 am 
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Hi pierre,
i agree with ship of fools. You must prctice and...practice. Maybe you can also (ina first time) use light strings...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:41 pm 
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bincall wrote:
Hi pierre,
i agree with ship of fools. You must prctice and...practice. Maybe you can also (ina first time) use light strings...


What are light strings?

And yes, I've been practicing, as I said, I once could do them perfectly, but if I don't play for a while my good barré's are gone... Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:09 pm 
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Acoustics come as extra lights 10-48,lites 11-46,and will work upwards from there.Electric DAddario XL, I use nickel super lights 9-42 so if you try a lighter string you wont have to work as goaway.And do remember are hands get tierd for many reasons.louis
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:31 pm 
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What I did when I was first learning the barre chords, Say if you were playing a B: I would start out by only putting my 3 fingers on the 4th fret. And then when my fingers grew strong enough and it started to sound right, I would put my first finger on the second fret. So, for now you could just practice with the 3 fingers, it sounds alittle different but it will help you!
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